までeven
まで usually means "until" or "as far as". After someone or something you wouldn't expect, it means "even": things went that far.
My little brother, who hates vegetables, even ate the green peppers.
Not only beginners but even professional players made the same mistake.
How to form it
Noun + まで
まで usually takes the place of が or を. に stays, in front of it: 社長にまで, "even to the president".
- Before it
- The last person or thing you'd expect: a professional, your best friend, the company president.
- Often with
- だけでなく, "not only", earlier in the sentence.
- The feeling
- Surprise, glad or not: a kindness you didn't expect, or one trouble too many.
Which まで?
After a place or a time it is usually the everyday まで: where a trip or a stretch of time stops. Nobody is surprised.
This bus goes as far as the station.
In use
She prepared not only the handouts for me but even the script for the presentation.
Even the company president was told about that small mistake.
It's cold today, and now it has even started to rain.
It tops what is already there
Others did it, or other things happened, and this one is the surprise on top. も only adds one more.
My little brother ate the green peppers too.
One more thing he ate.
My little brother even ate the green peppers.
The last thing you'd expect him to eat.
Close neighbours
さえN3
Also "even". With a negative it is "not even": the least you'd expect, and still no.
He was so nervous that he couldn't even say his own name.
までにN4
With に after it, a deadline: "by". にまで is the other way around, and means "even to".
I will reply by tomorrow morning.
Check yourself
1In which sentence is まで "even"?
Choose an answer to see why.
2What does this tell you?
妹まで
Choose an answer to see why.
More sentences
Even you are saying that?
I never thought even my best friend would be against it.
He usually does everything on his own, but this time he even asked me for help.
It started as just an argument, but it turned into such a scene that even the police were called.
My throat hurts, and now I've even got a fever.