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JLPT N1Mostly writtenA firm verdict

は・ならいざしらず… is another matter, but

"I can't speak for A, but B …": you put one case aside as a different matter, without judging it, and say something firm about the one that counts.

How to form it

Noun + は/なら + いざしらず

は is "as for", なら is "if it were". With a time or a kind of person either is common: 昔むかしは/昔むかしならいざしらず. Also written いざ知しらず.

After a clause

Plain form + なら + いざしらず

本ほん人にんが望のぞんだならいざしらず.

Before it
The case put aside: another time (昔むかし), another kind of person (子こども, 素人しろうと, 他た人にん), another situation (休きゅう日じつ, 緊きん急きゅう時じ).
After it
The case that counts and a firm verdict on it, often a rebuke: わけにはいかない, べきではない, とは.
Where you'll meet it
Editorials, essays, speeches, pointed remarks. Mostly one to read: in everyday talk people say ならともかく.

In use

いざしらず or まだしも?

A child might be another matter, but for an adult to do a thing like that is shameful.

A child is a different case, put aside without being judged. The point is the adult.

From a child I could put up with it, but for an adult to do a thing like that is shameful.

From a child it wouldn't be good either, only easier to put up with. From an adult it goes too far.

まだしも needs a worse case to follow. いざしらず doesn't: 昔むかしはいざしらず、今いまでは… only says that times have changed.

Close neighbours

は・ならまだしもN1

The first case isn't good either, only easier to put up with; the second goes too far. Common in conversation.

ならともかくN2

"It would be one thing if …": names a case you could accept. What follows is usually an objection to the real one.

Check yourself

1What is the writer's point?

昔むかしはいざしらず、今いまは男だん性せいも育いく児じ休きゅう暇かを取とる時じ代だいだ。

Choose an answer to see why.

2Which one fits?

他た社しゃ(  )、当とう社しゃではそのような問もん題だいは一いち度ども起おきていない。

Choose an answer to see why.

More detail

Word for word it is "I wouldn't know about …". Whether you really don't know is beside the point.

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