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だのだのDismissive listing

だの~だの loosely lists examples of what people say or complain about, while suggesting that the speaker finds them tiresome, unreasonable, or not worth taking seriously. It often echoes labels, excuses, demands, or complaints and then gives a critical response to the whole list.

The list carries an attitude

The items usually sound as though the speaker is echoing other people's words: “this,” “that,” and so on. The important point is not simply that several things are named; it is that the speaker steps back from them and treats them as annoying claims, labels, excuses, or demands. A following clause commonly shows the speaker's judgment or response.

かれきゅうりょうやすいだのやすみがすくないだのうたびにかいしゃもんう。

Every time I see him, he complains about the company—saying the pay is low, there are too few days off, and so on.

Analyze

The final clause presents the listed remarks collectively as habitual complaining.

Whole statements can be echoed

The construction is not limited to nouns. A verb or adjective in a plain form can be followed directly by だの. This is especially useful when repeating a string of excuses or objections.

めないだのかんがないだのわけをして、かれりょうとおそうともしなかった。

He made excuses about not being able to read it and not having time, and did not even try to look through the material.

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Echoing labels

しゅうかれてんさいだのかくめいだのんだが、ほんにんめいわくそうだった。

People around him called him a genius, a revolutionary, and so forth, but he himself seemed bothered by it.

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Here the labels are echoed with distance rather than presented as the speaker's own neutral description.

Dismissal versus a crowded mixture

だの~だの highlights the speaker's dismissive attitude toward the listed words or ideas. By contrast, やら~やら can simply present a confusing, busy, or mixed collection without belittling its contents.

まえづくりやらつづきやらで、ひまもなかった。

Before the move, I was so busy with packing, paperwork, and everything else that I had no time to relax.

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This describes a crowded mixture of tasks; it does not dismiss the tasks as foolish excuses or complaints.

Give the list a clear destination

A sentence is clearest when the clause after the list tells us what happened because of those remarks: someone complained, refused, criticized, made excuses, or became fed up. That context makes the attitude unmistakable.

More examples

きゃく部屋へやせまいだのながめがわるいだのさんざんまんならべた。

The guest went on and on complaining that the room was small, the view was bad, and so forth.

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いそがしいだのつかれただのって、かれぜんこちらにまかせている。

Claiming that he is busy or tired or whatever, he leaves all the housework to me.

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かいではぜんれいがないだのけんすぎるだのと、はんたいけんばかりがた。

At the meeting, all we heard were objections—that there was no precedent, that it was too risky, and so on.

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ゆうめいじんだのせんもんだのというかたがきだけで、そのひとけんしんじるべきではない。

You should not believe someone's opinion merely because they carry labels like celebrity or expert.

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わないだのたんとうしゃがいないだのわれ、とうとうまんげんかいたっした。

After being told that it would not be ready in time, that the person in charge was unavailable, and so on, I finally ran out of patience.

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かれらはそくきびしいだのせつめいりないだのさわいでいるが、まずあんないさいまでむべきだ。

They are making a fuss about the rules being too strict and the explanation being inadequate, but they should first read the instructions to the end.

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だの~だの (dano dano) – Dismissive listing