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JLPT N1Mostly written

とも~とも言いえない・とも~ともつかないneither clearly A nor B

Something sits between two descriptions, and you can't call it either. ともつかない is literary: how novels describe a look, a voice or a color. とも言いえない is also said, in careful speech.

ともつかない

A とも + B ともつかない(+ noun)

Usually straight before the noun it describes: 色いろ, 声こえ, 表ひょう情じょう, 返へん事じ.

とも言えない

A とも + B とも言いえない

と言いえない with も: you can't say it is A, or B either.

A and B
Two names the thing might go by, mostly nouns: two colors, 冗じょう談だん and 本ほん気き, 賛さん成せい and 反はん対たい.
In conversation
冗じょう談だんなのか本ほん気きなのか分わからない.

In use

どちらとも言いえない and 何なんとも言いえない

These two are everyday speech: a question word stands in for A and B. どちらとも言いえない is "I can't say either way", the middle box on a questionnaire. 何なんとも言いえない is "I can't say".

Close neighbours

というか~というかN2

Spoken: you try two words and keep both. With ともつかない, neither one will do.

Other pairs that name two things

なり~なりN1

Offers options: "A, or B, or something". Advice, a request or your own plan follows.

といい~といいN1

Gives two grounds for one verdict: "the A, the B, all good", or all bad.

だの~だのN1

Sounds fed up: "A, B, on and on", what someone keeps saying. Spoken.

Check yourself

1What does this mean?

彼かれは、笑え顔がおとも泣なき顔がおともつかない表ひょう情じょうを浮うかべた。

Choose an answer to see why.

2The same word goes in both blanks.

賛さん成せい(  )反はん対たい(  )、意い見けんには理り由ゆうを添そえなければならない。

Choose an answer to see why.

More detail

With 言いわない it is "won't say either way". Verbs come before it freely.

海うみのものとも山やまのものともつかない is a set phrase for something too new to judge.

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