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JLPT N2Spoken, everyday

か何なにかor something

You name one thing and leave it open: "or something". Either you aren't sure exactly what it is, or anything of that kind will do.

How to form it

Noun + か何なにか(+ particle)

In conversation が and を usually drop, and 何なにか often comes out as なんか: お茶ちゃかなんか.

After a verb

Plain form + か何なにか + する/で

する for something to do, で for a reason.

Before it
One example of what you mean: a thing (お茶ちゃ, 紙かみ), a reason (風邪かぜ, 仕し事ごと), something to do.
Where you'll meet it
Everyday conversation, with or without です and ます. Not in careful writing.

In use

Shall we get a coffee or something?

何なにか said the casual way.

Please write the address on a piece of paper or something.

The particle comes after か何なにか.

Shall we go for a walk in the park or something?

After a verb, with する.

かどこか, かだれか

For a place it is かどこか, "or somewhere". For a person it is かだれか, "or someone".

Close neighbours

とかN4

Looser and more casual: "things like". In an offer the two come to much the same.

でもN4

"Or something", mostly in invitations, offers and suggestions, polite or casual.

なんかN4

Straight after a noun, with no か before it, it is "things like": you know what the thing is.

Check yourself

1A friend says this to you. What do they want?

ペンか何なにか貸かしてくれない?

Choose an answer to see why.

2What is the person speaking sure of?

部ぶ長ちょうは出しゅっ張ちょうか何なにかで、今こん週しゅうはいません。

Choose an answer to see why.

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