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JLPT N2Written and spokenForceful

も同どう然ぜんだas good as; practically

Not quite so, but so nearly that the difference doesn't count: as good as won, practically family, next to nothing. It is a forceful way to put it.

How to form it

Verb in the た-form or ない-form/noun + も同どう然ぜんだ

勝かったも同どう然ぜんだ, やっていないも同どう然ぜんだ, 家か族ぞくも同どう然ぜんだ. After a noun the も often drops: 家か族ぞく同どう然ぜん. Before a noun it is 同どう然ぜんの.

Before it
What it comes to in practice: 勝かった, 終おわった, 決きまった, 死しんだ; 家か族ぞく, ただ (free), 新しん品ぴん (brand new).
Tone
Strong. You wave the last bit of difference away, so it sounds confident, dramatic or bitter.
Where you'll meet it
Novels, commentary and emphatic talk. In everyday speech, mostly in the set phrases below.

In use

Three you'll hear

ただ同どう然ぜんnext to nothing, practically free

A friend let me have this bike for next to nothing.

家か族ぞく同どう然ぜんone of the family

Our dog is one of the family.

新しん品ぴん同どう然ぜんas good as new

I got a camera that was as good as new for a low price.

A verdict, not a report

The work is almost finished.

A plain report. A little is left to do.

The work is as good as finished.

A verdict: what is left doesn't count.

The work is more or less finished.

The same verdict in a softer, everyday voice.

Close neighbours

て当然だN2

A look-alike with another meaning: 当とう然ぜん, "only natural".

と同じN3

Plain sameness, stated as a fact. も同どう然ぜんだ admits it isn't really the same, and says that makes no difference.

Check yourself

1Has he passed?

彼かれの成せい績せきなら、もう合ごう格かくしたも同どう然ぜんだ。

Choose an answer to see why.

2"I bought this book for next to nothing."

この本ほんは(  )で買かった。

Choose an answer to see why.

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