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JLPT N3EverydayOne idea, several uses

ほど・くらいso … that; not as … as

ほど and くらい hold something up as a measure: "this much". The end of the sentence says the rest: things got that far, they fall short of it, or nothing else comes close.

So … that

Plain form + ほど/くらい

Mostly after a verb: 死しぬほど, 眠ねむれないほど, 泣なきたいくらい. The verb usually stays in the present form even when the sentence is about the past. ぐらい is the same word as くらい.

Not as … as

A は B ほど + negative

B is the bar, and A doesn't reach it.

Nothing is as … as

B ほど/くらい + description + noun + はない

The noun is often just もの, "thing". About people it ends 人ひとはいない.

At least; a mere …

Noun/verb dictionary form + くらい

After something small: それくらい, "that much, at least"; 風邪かぜくらいで, "for a mere cold"; 聞きくくらいは, "listening, at least".

Which ほど, which くらい?

くらい・ぐらい (about)N5

After a number or an amount, くらい is usually plain "about". ほど does the same, a little more politely: 十じゅっ分ぷんほど.

ば~ほどN3

ほど with two things changing together: "the more …, the more …". The word before it is said twice, though the first can drop: 早はやいほどいい, the sooner the better.

So … that

Before ほど or くらい comes a picture of how strong something is: what it does to you, or nearly does. English builds it the other way around, with the picture last: "so nervous that my voice shook".

The picture is often an exaggeration, like "I could have died", and a few are set phrases.

ほど or くらい?

Here either will usually do. くらい is the more casual, ほど a little more formal and the usual one in writing. Set phrases such as 死しぬほど and 山やまほど stay with ほど.

Not as … as: ほど~ない

より says which one has more of something. ほど with a negative says which one has less. くらい isn't used for this.

This room is not as big as the room next door.

The room next door is the bigger one.

Ken is not as good at cooking as Mika.

Gentler than ミカより下手へただ, "worse than Mika".

This town is convenient too, but it is not as convenient as Tokyo.

Both are convenient. Tokyo is the bar.

Comparing two things, ほど goes with a negative. When they are level, English keeps "as … as", but Japanese changes the word to と同おなじくらい.

Not said: 私わたしは兄あにほど背せが高たかい。

(I am as tall as my older brother.)

Level with him: 私わたしは兄あにと同おなじくらい背せが高たかい.

Not as … as I expected

思おもったほど~ないnot as … as I expected

The exam wasn't as hard as I expected.

以い前ぜんほど~ないnot as … as before

These days I don't go to the library as often as I used to.

Nothing is as … as: ほど~はない

This is 一いち番ばん said with feeling: you look for a rival and find none. It praises and complains equally well, and くらい works as well as ほど.

In "not as … as" the description itself is negative. Here it stays positive, and the ない comes after the noun.

This lake is not as deep as that lake.

Two lakes. This one doesn't reach the bar.

Around here, no lake is as deep as that one.

That lake against all the others. None reaches the bar.

Only くらい: at least, a mere …

After something small, くらい says "that little": the least anyone could do, or nothing to make a fuss about. ほど can't say this.

Close neighbours

くらいならN3

"I'd rather … than". What comes before it is something you refuse to put up with.

に限るN3

"Nothing beats": a verdict that only names the winner.

Check yourself

1"My room is as big as my older brother's."

Choose an answer to see why.

2What does this mean?

彼かの女じょほど歌うたがうまい人ひとはいない。

Choose an answer to see why.

3Which one fits?

自じ分ぶんの部屋へや(  )自じ分ぶんで掃そう除じしなさい。

Choose an answer to see why.

More detail

ほどではない

After a clause, ほどではない is "not so much that".

Before a noun, and at the end

Before a noun it takes の, and it can close the sentence with だ.

In kanji

Now and then they are written 程ほど and 位くらい.

More sentences

Before the deadline, I was so busy I'd have taken help from anyone.

A set phrase: so busy you'd borrow a cat's paws.