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Kotomora
JLPT N3Spoken and writtenOne idea, four uses

ものだhow things are; should; used to

ものだ stands back and says how things are. That gives a general truth and a common-sense "should". With feeling in it, it marvels at something or looks back on the old days.

How to form it

Plain form of a verb or adjective + ものだ

A な-adjective keeps な: 複ふく雑ざつなものだ. Polite ものです, written ものである. In conversation it shrinks to もんだ.

Should not

Verb in the dictionary form + ものではない

The verb is something a person chooses to do. In conversation もんじゃない.

Which ものだ is it?

What comes before it usually tells you.

A plain present form about people or things in general

That's how things are.

People change.

A dictionary-form verb for something a person chooses to do

That's what people do, so do it: "should".

You're supposed to let people finish what they are saying.

The same, with ものではない

That isn't done: "shouldn't".

You don't say things like that.

One thing you have noticed, often with な or ね after it

Wonder, or a sigh: "how …!"

How time flies.

A た-form about one thing that happened, often with よく or ずいぶん

Wonder again: よく is "I'm amazed that…".

I'm amazed you made it all the way here without even a map.

A た-form with a time long gone: 昔むかしは, 子こどものころ

Looking back: "used to", and よく is "often".

When I was a child, I used to swim in this river a lot.

How things are

About people, life or things in general, never one event. English uses the plain present, or adds "naturally" or "tend to".

After something that just happens, ものではない is this use in the negative, not "shouldn't".

Should and shouldn't

With something a person chooses to do, "that's how people behave" means "so behave that way". It is a parent, a teacher or an older person putting someone right about manners. To a friend it sounds like a lecture, and it isn't said to someone above you.

ものだ or べきだ?

You don't laugh at other people's mistakes.

It isn't done. You point to how people behave.

You shouldn't laugh at other people's mistakes.

It is wrong. You give your own judgment of what is right.

ものだ is a rule for everyone, even when it is said to one person. What this person should do this time is べきだ: 君きみはすぐ謝あやまるべきだ, "you should apologize right away", not 謝あやまるものだ. Advice for this one case is ことだ, or from a friend たほうがいい.

Being struck by something

One thing makes you stop and marvel, or sigh. English has only "really", "how …" or a tone of voice. Two set phrases: 早はやいものだ, "how time flies", and たいしたものだ, "that's really something".

Looking back: たものだ

After a た-form, ものだ is never a general truth or a "should". With a time long gone, it recalls what you did again and again, or how things were, usually fondly.

English "used to" can be a bare fact: "I used to work at a bank." たものだ always has feeling in it, so a bare fact is just the past: 前まえは銀ぎん行こうで働はたらいていた.

When もの is something else

もの is also the everyday word for "thing".

This watch is one my father gave me.

Not "used to". もの is the watch.

With more before or after it, it is a different form.

ものだから・ものでN3

With から or で after it, a reason: the "because" of apologies.

もの・もんN3

At the very end, with no だ after it: a sulky "because".

たいものだN2

After たい, a wish said with feeling: "I'd love to".

というものだN2

After という, a verdict: "that is what … means".

ものがあるN2

With がある: "there is something … about it".

Check yourself

1What does this mean?

一人ひとりでここまで仕し上あげるとは、よく頑がん張ばったものだ。

Choose an answer to see why.

2A friend has upset Tanaka and asks what you think. Which do you say?

Choose an answer to see why.

3A mother says this at the table. What does she mean?

ご飯はんを食たべながらスマホを見みるもんじゃないよ。

Choose an answer to see why.

More detail

With よくも, the amazement is anger: "how dare you".

More sentences

Compared with ten years ago, this town really has changed.

Not "used to": the town has changed, and you are struck by how much.